12 countries in 12 years

Friday, June 5, 2015

Cultural Crime Differences between South America and North America

In the U.S people are told to report anyone that looks suspicious. What really does that mean “looks suspicious”? Lots of folks look suspicious, and yet wouldn’t do anything to hurt another person; perhaps they are only a bit eccentric but to some people eccentricity looks suspicious. 



Many folks can look suspicious when really they are just ordinary folks like you and me just trying to get through the day without nosy people interfering in their lives. Good luck with that; many people have been conditioned to live in fear and be afraid of everything and anyone that doesn’t behave like them. 







Suspicious Behavior or Just Normal?
 


In Ecuador some of the people look suspicious, especially when you first get here because you are not used to seeing certain behaviors. You’ll see young males in groups loitering on street corners, watching you as you walk by.  This is not suspicious for Ecuador, although it can be… so still be aware of your surroundings.
 


In Ecuador you’ll see young men wearing black hoodies with the hoods up over their head, even when it’s not raining; to top it off they are also wearing sunglasses. Who knows what kind of character may be lurking under the hood? But this too is normal for the Andes of Ecuador and not the least bit suspicious. After living in Ecuador for several years you come to find that it’s perfectly normal to wear your hood up in 70ish degree weather and even when it’s not raining.  It’s a great way to stay comfortable in the mountains, where there mostly isn’t any need for central heat or air conditioning.
 


If these young men walked in any city in the U.S with hoods on and wearing sunglasses they’d probably be stopped on the street and asked to show ID because it looks suspicious hiding or covering up your face and hair walking down the street in North America.  It also seems to be suspicious to loiter around businesses and street corners in the U.S, but here, it’s normal.  You’ll see a lot more of the loitering around businesses all along the Ecuador coast too.
 


Here in Ecuador this behavior is not only normal but necessary.  Instead what you want to look for is whether their clothes are dirty and torn, whether their hair is combed as most school boys’ and how they look at you and how they behave toward you.  Therefore not everyone that wears a hoodie is suspicious in the Andes, thank god because hoodies are very popular here.



Less Crime in Ecuador than the US? 



People love to talk about on forums how there is less crime in Ecuador than in the U.S. Funny, someone did a Numbeo comparison of Cuenca and Pittsburg, Pennsylvania  and then started boasting about how there is more crime in Pittsburg than in Cuenca. Now, what’s wrong with this picture? Come-on you can guess.  First off we have to compare apples to apples and pears to pears; and as we’ve said already, cultural differences say a lot.
 


Well first off there’s a big difference in the way things are cataloged in south America vs north America. Perhaps in some countries such as Ecuador only as an example, and many other countries in the southern hemisphere, many types of crimes such as  the under $600 of loss are not even well cataloged at all, or reported, and so when one uses recorded statistical analysis as their conversational basis, there may be a very large skew.
 


Let us not fall into the trap of minimizing this type of crime.  If you’re an elderly retiree walking along the street during the day in the latest best retirement city in the world, and a perpetrator shoves you and knocks you down on the ground and pulls your purse from your hands, it is something you will not quickly forget.
 


And then, one has to ask him/her self:  why and who would have an interest in showing a lower crime rate in any particular place, again such as Ecuador as an example, or the next place that will be named ‘best place to retire in the world’.
 


The fact is it really does not matter if Cuenca has more crime or less apparent statistical crime than comparable size cities in the U.S because Cuenca is in South America!! The culture is different, the amount of proactive police force is different, the crime is different, laws are different and people behave differently, as we have already explained.
 


Finally because it is different means you have to also behave different than how you are used to behaving back in the good ole USA.  For example in many cities people leave their bags and other things unguarded when grocery shopping, waiting in airports, or eating out in restaurants; here in South and Central America you cannot take your eyes or your hands off your things. There’s many example we could talk about here but we won’t go into all that in this article.
 


The point is, there is no use bragging about how there is less crime in a South American city than in a North American city because it’s like talking about apples to pears. Instead what you’ll want to do is compare OTHER cities in Latin America to other cities in Latin America that are of comparable size. Bigger cities will almost always have more crime and much more violent crime.
 


If a person were to compare Cuenca to another city of comparable size in Latin America, try one of these three cities in Latin America: Valparaiso Chile, Cusco Peru, and Popayan, Columbia. (NOTE) We did not choose these cities for any particular reason, other than they are also in Latin America. These cities have similar cultures and are similar in size.  Or?  What other south or central American cities would make a good comparison? 



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Wednesday, June 3, 2015

Real Ecuador Coast Life with Discover Cuenca Ecuador 2015

Enjoy the video of Ecuador coast life; a glimpse of what to expect during your coastal travels. Photos taken from our Ecuador coast Guide book and recent visits to the coast. We go to the beach often and so we know what to expect every step of the way, which we share in our DIY Ecuador Coast Travel Guide, the real Ecuador coast. 



                 


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Monday, June 1, 2015

Which Beach Town is Safer, Manta, Bahia, or Salinas?

All three (bigger size) beach towns are quite safe in the tourist zones. Salinas tourist area has a excellent police presence. In Salinas they are still working on improving and updating the homes up to three rows back from the Malecon. Every time we go back to visit Salinas the neighborhood area behind the high rise condos looks more updated and well kept.  And the homeowners have put much bigger price tags on the homes as a result. See the chapter on Salinas real estate in this guide for more detail.



Anything further back than three rows you are out of the Salinas tourist zone and would be considered walking off the beaten path, until you get to the Paseo Shopping Mall, which here you’ll find it is a bit more touristy with expat enclaves.



Frank and I have always walked off the beaten path in Salinas without issues; however, we always walk during the day time hours. A viewer did leave a comment on one of our “off the beaten path” videos in Salinas, saying to stay out of the area we were in, calling it “no man’s land”; it was somewhere on the other side of the point by the airport.



There are a few more neighborhoods in Salinas that local homeowners are trying to improve for the foreign invasion.  They are putting out “community watch signs” and fixing up a few of the homes, hoping to rent out their homes at tourist prices; many of the ads now say, “close to Supermaxi”, hoping to put a $500 rent price on a $200 home. 




Salinas 4 or 5 rows back

Remember, if you live in one of these neighborhoods in a detached home it needs to have security features such as whole house alarm, tall fence, and if other homes in the area have electrical fence, it is highly recommended to have that as well, otherwise you will get broken into, at some point. There are now a lot more expats that live all over in Salinas which means more thievery, pick-pockets and home invasions. 



In the Manta tourist zone we walked all over the place and felt safe. Manta’s tourist zone also has a good police presence; it was well kept, and we felt very safe walking around during the day. We even walked off the beaten path, all the way over to the Mercado (not the central one) in the Tarqui district. It seemed a bit dodgier, but it was morning and we had nothing on us but a few bucks to buy some produce with. We also had a pretty good sized fish lunch with the best aji sauce we've ever had right across the street from the Mercado for $3.00 dollars. See the video below.

                      




Manta has a fairly good police presence in the tourist areas, and there are always a lot of people milling about and we felt fairly safe, but once you walk away from the touristy areas you’re basically on your own.



In
the tourist zone of Bahia, most local homes are painted and updated,
money permitting of course. This is a good tell-tell sign that the
community cares about their neighborhood and will help watch over
everyone else, which actually deters crime considerably. 
Although we were told to put our camera away when we were walking outside of the tourist sector in Bahia.



We felt safer walking off the beaten path in Salinas and Bahia than in Manta. Manta is a bigger city and we did not see a very big police presence when we walked off the beaten path. Considering that, we felt the winner for safest bigger-sized beach town in Ecuador was a tossup between Bahia and Salinas.  But that’s just a comparison.



Salinas, Ecuador



Both Salinas and Bahia seemed to be quite safe during the day for a (bigger) beach city/town.  Still, because there is a bigger police presence in Salinas, it might be ahead of Bahia for being the safest (bigger) beach town in Ecuador out of the three, especially when off the beaten path. 



TIP: This assessment is relatively speaking.  In no way should you ever be off your guard in any area at the coast. The best way to stay safe on the Ecuador coast, no matter where you live is to stay alert, blend in and integrate, stay oriented, don’t be too trusting, and acquaint yourself with the local neighbors in the area you decide to live in.



FYI: At night there is no one on the beaches anywhere on the  Ecuador coast. 



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