12 countries in 12 years

Friday, September 4, 2015

Quito Ecuador vs. Panama City - Which City is Better for You?

Quito Ecuador and Panama City, Panama are two very different types of cities. One is tropical, hot and near the coast, while the other is temperate, mild, and in the Andes Mountains. Recognizing these three differences should give the reader a very good idea of which city they would like to retire to as far as climate and weather are concerned. 


Quito Ecuador



However, for those few folks who still cannot decide which city they prefer, here are some of the positives and negatives of both cities. BTW, these are facts not our opinions.  The only one that would be considered our personal opinion would be we think both cities have natural beauty about them; the mountains of the Andes and the bay of Panama City.  For a few of our personal opinions, please see our notes below the tables. 




Panama City, Panama

We don't think comparing countries based on personal opinions really does any justice for people. Like we learned as children, beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. That means you have to behold it; other people cannot behold a country for you.




Quito, Ecuador Positives and Negatives Facts 2015




























































Quito Positives Negatives
Getting There 1. International Airport

 
1. Flights can be expensive- about 25% higher than in 2014
Health Care 1. Health care in Quito Ecuador has consistently ranked one of the best in South America.  2. Several modern and clean hospitals with US standard equipment, services and doctors. 3. Less than half the cost of US prices; sometimes 1/4 of US costs.  

None

Crime & Safety

1. During the day Quito is relatively safe if you don't act rich or flash your valuables.
1.High incidence of petty thievery in certain areas near and in the Mercado's.   2. Some vagrancy, especially in old town.   3. Taxi kidnaps of tourists is a risk  4. High percentage of petty thievery occurs at night to tourists.  5. Violent crime such as armed robbery, home invasions and sexual assualts on the rise in Quito. 

Source: OSAC


Shopping
1. Numerous US style grocery/ departments stores.  2. Four huge shopping Malls and many strip type malls.  3. Inexpensive produce at the local Mercado's.  4. Several health food stores to buy natural products.  5. Quito has a lot of locally produced brands of foods, so you can shy away from the high-priced imports1. With the exception of fruits and vegetables you can buy at the local Mercado, food is expensive.  2. electronics, furniture, appliances, tools, and other household items all cost double or more than in the US. 
Public Transportation1. Trolley - 2. City Buses  3. Ecovia and they all cost $0.25 cents.  4.Taxi - taxi fares range from $1.50 to $5 anywhere within the city limits. To and from airport $25 to $30

1. Both the Ecovia and Trolley are overly crowded.  2. Higher incidence of pick-pockets on public transportation.  3.Need to be careful with taking taxis because of kidnap express robberies.  4. Disabled people will have a problem getting on Ecovia and Trolley without assistance.
Weather and Climate

1. Fairly mild temperatures year round.
1. No seasons.  2. Some winter days can get chilly.  3. More cloudy days than sunny.  4. Homes and apartments stay chilly (no central heating).  5. High altitude can pose problems for COPD patients.
PeoplePleasant and helpful1. Gringo gouging and targeting
Environment, Services and Ambiance1. Beautiful city with majestic mountains surrounding the whole
city. 2. Numerous restaurants, live theaters, cinema and shopping.  3. Many different types of indigenous cultural tourist attractions, tour
buses, museums and attractions. 4. Quito has been named as one of the top 20 best places to go visit in 2015  5. Quito is home to four HUGE lovely parks
that have tennis, basketball, volleyball and other sports courts.
1.Erratic, unorganized drivers. 2. pedestrians need to be careful when crossing the street without traffic lights 3. Noisy  4. Some pollution from the diesel buses
Internet & Infrastructure1. Internet is fair to good in the city.  2. WIFI spots situated throughout the city. 3. Good to excellent roads

1. Internet may not be in all hotels. If you need Internet, make sure the hotel has it before booking.
2. Internet more expensive than in the US.


Rental & Utility Costs1. Low to moderate priced rentals - unfurnished $300 to $450      2. Very low utility (electric, water, gas, etc) bills.1. Tourist rentals and areas are very high priced.







 Panama City, Panama Positives and Negatives Facts 2015

































































Panama City


 Positives 


Negatives




Getting There

1. Close to the US

2. Fair to Good Airline Prices



  None

Health Care 1. Good Healthcare at US Standards. 2. Several modern and clean hospitals 3. Half the cost of US prices, according to expats that have used the services.
Source 1: Numbeo


Source 2: Huffington Post 

1. Some of the major hospitals crowded with AIDS patients - Aids and HIV are epidemic in Panama City. Source: Panama newspaper - La Estrella de Panama

Crime & Safety

1. minor crime infractions (petty theft and pick-pockets) are few, comparatively speaking with other Latin countries.  FYI: Violent home invasions high in other areas of Panama like Boquete and Coronado.



1. Statistics show over 650 murders in 2013  2. 201 street gangs. 3. Violent crime high because of organized crime. Panama city sees a lot of sexual assaults

Source: Insight Crime

Shopping1.Good
prices for electronics, appliances, furniture, hardware, clothing,
shoes, stuff.  2. Prices for everything (except food) is the same price or
better than in the US. 3. Several big shopping Malls. 4. Good discount
department/clothing stores. 5. Mercado produce prices are good to inexpensive.





1. Everything in the grocery stores is imported. No locally produced brands. 2. No natural health food stores

Public Transportation

1. Excellent modern city buses $0.25  2. Excellent modern Metro subway $0.35  3. Taxi prices are fair to good - $3 to $7 in the city. Airport transfer $30





None






Weather and Climate

1. Mostly sunny days with tropical weather. 2. Little pollution because few diesel buses. 3. Panama City opens to the bay so smog escapes.1. Too hot for some people.

2. Humid





People

Gregarious and helpful1. Gringo gouging & targeting

     
 Environment,   


 Services and 
   Ambiance










1. Numerous restaurants, theaters and shopping malls.  2. 3-mile long walking, biking, jogging path along the bay (BalboaAve.) This area also has
exercise equipment, tennis courts, volley ball, basketball courts and children’s playground, all in a very well
manicured tropical setting with beautiful views of the bay and city. 3.  Several large parks; many
tourist attractions, tour buses, museums and attractions.
1. No Beach nearby

(closest beach is an hour by car and 2-hours by bus)   2. No public restrooms!  3. Erratic drivers  and lots of traffic.   4. noisy.  5. Some pollution from the diesel buses called “Red Devils”.   6. No organized garbage service, therefore garbage all over and it smells.  7. Many areas with exposed manholes; dangerous for walking.  8. Broken up sidewalks through out the city.  9. Many areas are not wheelchair friendly.  10.  Heavy prostitution in the tourist areas.  Source. Wiki - Prostitution in Panama City
Internet & Infrastructure

1. Internet in Panama is fair to good. WIFI is virtually everywhere.  Cost of Internet is about the same as in the states  2. Panama City
has fair to good roads.
1. Internet can be spotty in hotel rooms at certain times of the day.
Cost of Rentals & UtilitiesNone

1. High rental prices in the city of Panama City - $900 to $5000 2. AC needs to run all day and all night; you will have high utility bill.




Other notes about crime & safety comparing Panama City and Quito: According to 28 expats living in Quito and 22 expats living in Panama
City, the expats that live in Panama City felt relatively safer than
expats living in Quito.  See this comparison at Numbeo here.




Our personal observations about crime & safety in Panama: we felt a safer vibe in Panama and we also observed the locals using
their expensive electronics on the streets, counting wads of cash out in
the open, and leaving their luggage and back packs on travel buses while
they went to eat lunch. The only time we felt uneasy was when we were
inside or near the Mercados.  Panama City definitely has its share of crime and in bad
neighborhoods which we'll talk about in another article.  




Our notes about Internet: Internet (WIFI) for both Quito and Panama can be spotty in some hotel rooms. If you need Internet, before booking a hotel
room, check to make sure you can actually get on the Internet in your room. Most
lodgings have WIFI in the room with the modem router in the halls for
good connections, but it doesn’t mean your room will have a good
connection. 




Our personal notes about tourism: Comparing Quito and Panama City for expats with children... Quito wins hands down without a doubt. In our personal opinion Panama City does not cater to families with children, of any age. Panama city would not be considered a very family-friendly city.



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Thursday, September 3, 2015

How to Make Fresh Coconut Milk - Coconuts Grown in Ecuador

Frank's in the kitchen again. This time he is making fresh homemade coconut milk. It is extremely easy to make, really good for you and tastes wonderful!

                     




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Wednesday, September 2, 2015

Cuenca Ecuador Winter Weather (July thru Sept 2015) Unpredictable or Argentina Cold Front

Three years running (2011, 2012, and 2013) the weather in July and August was sunny mornings and unbelievably beautiful warm afternoon days. We’ve always liked the winter weather in the Andes Mountains more than the summer weather because it rains less and the sun shines more. But not this year and not last year either!


Typical skies in Cuenca Ecuador at anytime of the year.



It's funny, but whenever we talk to the locals about the chilly weather in Cuenca they seem to always blame it on Argentina, calling it an Argentina cold front. Now, we know it can get cold in Argentina but can't Ecuador have it's own cold snap, after all this is the Andes Mountains? 


This year we’ve seen a lot more cloudy skies, drizzly rain, cold and damp in the home, and all around dreary weather. What’s up? Could it be the phenomenon called El Nino?  We don’t think so because the weather, according to an update on a article I wrote in 2012, the winter weather was the same as last year, cold and cloudy just like this year in 2015.  Does El Nino double up?




Anyway, finding out if the weather is different because of El Nino would take up a lot of research that I’m not willing to do because in the long run, weather shouldn’t be made of such high importance.  However, there is an amount of expecting the weather to be a certain way and then it’s not, it can be a bit disappointing. Remember: Cuenca Ecuador has unpredictable weather patterns, leaning toward the chilly and cloudy and it can get those dreadful Argentina cold fronts (lol). I think that's what we're having now. 




A typical winter day in Cuenca, so I thought

We wrote an article about what Cuenca weather is like in the wintertime in the Andes Mountains...but this year it has been nothing like what we wrote about, at least so far anyway. It has been downright chilly the last few weeks.
 


Soon we'll be heading out of winter into a new spring season and that means slightly warmer weather and usually more rain. So have your umbrella and sweater handy in any case and enjoy the spring-like weather. 



Of course this is Cuenca Ecuador so, who knows what kind of weather we might experience this spring. We might have somewhat of a drought and that would be predictable or an Argentina 2-week cold front and that would be predictable too.
 


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