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Saturday, December 26, 2015

20 Popular Food Products that Cost More in Ecuador than U.S

If you move anywhere in South America you will find that imported food products cost two to three times more than what you’ve been paying in the states. And some foods even though they are produced locally cost more too. Some expats have posted on forums that their grocery bill is higher in Cuenca.  Part of the reason for that is because they are sticking to their favorite brands, which are the imports here in Ecuador. But that’s not the only reason.



Ecuador is a country that produces and manufactures many things. So before you get to the checkout counter, you might want to add to the cart the local brand and try it out and see if it is acceptable to your palate because buying local (most of the time) will save you a bundle, but not always as you'll see in this article.  
 


As far as food goes, produce is less expensive in Ecuador than the U.S but just about everything else is higher.



Note: photos taken from Walmart online in December 2015
 


1. Olive oil - Extra Virgin and Regular – Expect to pay almost twice as much in Ecuador. Sadly extra virgin olive oil is the only raw oil sold in Ecuador. We have been talking with the managers of many chain grocery stores, practically begging them to start adding on their shelf a different raw (cold-pressed) oil…still waiting.




101 EV Olive Oil $17.56 in the U.S

This much EV olive oil (101 oz) would cost about $35 in Ecuador.



2. Chicken – The chicken tastes 100% better (fresher) here but the price is about one third higher than what you’ll pay at Walmart in the states.You might want to double click on the images to enlarge.



Chicken Breasts $1.49 LB U.S.A

Chicken breasts in Cuenca Ecuador cost double that or more.

3. Sweet Potatoes – in 2012 we bought sweet potatoes at local pricing which is much lower than what they’re asking now, and now after the gringos showed up, they cost more than in the U.S.  They’re grown in Guayaquil, so why so high?





Sweet Potatoes 28 cents LB

We just wrote about the sweet potatoes in this article.
 


4. Parmesan cheese – Parmesan cheese is produced in Ecuador! Watch the video and find out more about this reality check on food.

                     

6. Coffee – The local Loja grown coffee (which in my opinion is the best) has shot way up in price!  What’s going on? We think all the rest of the gringos think it is the best too. See what happens? It’s crazy
 


7. Psyllium Husks – In 2012 they used to be cheaper than the U.S and now they cost more. This is another high demand gringo product. After I post this article, I’ll probably have at least two or three people (gringos) ask me where they can buy psyllium husks in Cuenca Ecuador. Let me just tell you the quick answer to that while we have you here. None of the health food stores in Cuenca are carrying psyllium husks at this time. Will that change? Who knows?
 


8. Brown rice – It’s only a little higher than what you would expect to pay in the U.S, so it’s not a big deal.  But it’s still higher, huh?
 


9. Alcohol – We don’t drink but we hear from time to time about how much higher (two times the cost of the U.S) it is in Ecuador than back home.
 


10. Potatoes – Why would a vegetable that grows in Ecuador cost more than in the U.S? This one is going to blow your socks off. 




$1.79 for a 10 pound bag in the U.S.A

In Cuenca Ecuador potatoes cost .40cents to .50cents a pound, twice as much.
 


11. Peanut butter – Very, very high. They have a few local brands but some of them have added wheat and preservatives. We make our own now and it is really simple! See how to make homemade PB.
 


12. Pringles - $3.85 for the regular size Pringles. They have locally produced potato chips in Ecuador. Be careful though, some brands can give you stomach issues because they are deep fried in rancid oil.  Pringles are baked and imported from U.S.
 


13. Herbs and Spices - Unless they are the loose dried leaf in bags, expect to pay two times more than in the U.S for herbs and spices. The cinnamon is a different story altogether, even the bagged cinnamon is expensive in Ecuador. It’s cheaper to buy the cinnamon sticks and grind it yourself, which tastes better anyway.
 


14. Canned Tomato paste/sauce – Amazingly, the canned tomato sauce for the 29 ounce cans (Great Value Brand) is still only $1.24! That's what it was when it wasn't on sale almost five years ago! In Ecuador a 29 ounce can of tomato paste or sauce cost over $4 last time I checked and it has sugar in it!  


All natural tomato sauce - $1.24 for 29 oz



When we lived in the U.S we found the Great Value brand to be the best value because it was always the most natural product on the shelf without added preservatives, coloring and sugars. 
 


15. Ice Cream – The ice cream in the grocery stores freezer department is not very good and it is expensive with a lot of unhealthy ingredients. A little tiny tub for the good stuff (24oz) is like $3.90. In the U.S you can get twice as much ice cream for the same price and it's one of the best brands too.




Bryers Ice Cream $3.94 for 48oz

16.  Anything canned – anything in a can is much more expensive in Ecuador than the U.S…doesn’t really matter what it is or what brand either. We don’t use canned goods so it doesn’t affect us and our grocery bill.
 


17.  Whole Turkey – It’s the same as the chicken, it tastes good but it's expensive.


Whole Turkey $1.19 LB for a 22 Pound Turkey = cost is $26 in the U.S

In Cuenca Ecuador a 22lb turkey would cost $40 to $60! 

18. Cranberries – In the states a can of cranberries for a popular brand cost $.99 cents and the off brand cost $79 cents. For the same size can it costs almost $3.50 a can in Cuenca. Someone’s getting rich off the gringo’s holidays because they don’t celebrate Thanksgiving in South America, at least not normally. 
 


19. Frozen entrées and other frozen prepared foods - They treat frozen meals such as pizza and TV dinners like they were made of gold here. We stay away from the prepared foods.
 


19. Pizza – It’s just a little bread with cheese and sauce and some veggies, well that’s what the old timey Italians thought.  Here it’s an international gourmet food with corresponding non Ecuadorian price tag.  A days’ wages for a pizza anyone?
 


20. Apples – The local ones do not cost more but do you want to eat them? Unfortunately, the local apples are just not that good here. We pay a bit more and buy the ones from Chile.

And that is our list of 20 popular foods that cost more in Ecuador than in the U.S.




Even though some foods cost more in Ecuador, our grocery bill is still lower here than it was when we lived in the U.S and that's because produce is reasonably priced in Ecuador and we do not buy imported items and we prepare all of our meals from scratch using the whole foods which are better priced than the already prepared foods like TV dinners.
 


Until we write again…

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Thursday, December 24, 2015

Cuenca Bloggers Moving Back to Canada and the U.S and Expats Moving Abroad for Wrong Reasons

Recently a reader wrote in letting us know that she finds all the bloggers that are moving back to the U.S and Canada distressing. We don't know how many expats actually move back to N. America but we do read about it from time to time through the Cuenca chatter.  Some people just move abroad for the wrong reasons and so after awhile, for reasons of their own, they end up moving back to North America.  Watch the video and find out more.

                           

Btw, NOT everyone is moving back to N. America; there are some long-time expats still live in Ecuador and have no plans on moving back to the U.S. 



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Wednesday, December 23, 2015

Bargaining in Cuenca Ecuador Is Not What It Used to Be

Sure, anyone can go to a fruit stand or a Mercado and bargain up a storm, and you should because it is very much expected to do so.  But lately we’ve been noticing that more shops, stores and services are unwilling to bargain, even though they do not have any set prices on anything.



In 2011 everyone bargained and loved to haggle with you, and for good reason; you’re in a country where it is expected to bargain. However, we’re seeing a change happening with some of the shop-keepers and even at the Mercado where the ladies seem really set in their pricing.
 


Set prices would be fine with us if they would post the prices!  Post their prices? But we don’t see any posted prices and so you know what that means, right?  Ah yes, two different prices for two different people. Did anyone say price gouging? Heaven forbid anyone might call it “discrimination”.  What if I don’t want to be different? What if I want to pay what they pay? Have they thought about that?
 


Negotiating a rental is different too. Some home rentals say negotiable in the ad but not nearly as many as when we first got here, and unfortunately, when they do say negotiable in the ad, many times they don’t really want to lower the price, especially when they see a gringo, or they add something more into the rental package like an aliquot, which if it was not advertised then it makes it a bait and switch advertisement.  They have figured out they can just wait it out until the next gringo comes along that 'doesn't negotiate'.

What’s happening to the Cuenca where haggling and bargaining is the norm? The haggling aspect of South America is what gave Cuenca part of its charm and enjoyment.  Haggling with the locals can bring an interaction that says, “Hey I want to pay what you pay” which shows respect and humbleness from the foreigner…and they like that.  We hope that charm does not disappear.
 


And why just lately, last year or two are we seeing more local people less likely to haggle with you even though you’re in a country where it is very much culturally acceptable to do so?  Is this “no haggling’ just with the foreigners or the locals too?
 


Is it our fault? Have we gringos bombarded their little Cuenca with the prices we are willing to pay? Have we set certain precedents, showing them that we are capable and willing to pay much more than the local? Do we walk around behaving better than the local people by flaunting our clothing, accessories, and attitude and money?  Isn’t that where price gouging begins, from the behavior of others?
 


We’re committed professional frugalists, and as such, we don’t quit bargaining, in spite of our fellow compatriot’s behavior.   If someone won’t negotiate, we go elsewhere.  That sets the tone from then on for the next person, or even ourselves, in the long run.  Consider it a public service.  



Hopefully the "we go elsewhere" part, won't leads us straight on a one way ticket out of Cuenca. Ouch!  Displacement anyone?  There's more to say about that at another time.

We’re not sure about anywhere else in Ecuador but Cuenca over the course of the last five years has changed and that change has meant the loss of some of its charms out in the market place, especially in the tourist areas and that’s sad, it’s sad indeed.
 


until we write again...
 


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Tuesday, December 22, 2015

We Have Never "Shopped" at Feria Libre Outdoor Mercado

 “Only Americans move abroad to live on less and pay more than in Europe or their own country. Quote from one of our YouTube video commenters.




Sweet potatoes - USA 2015



           WE HAVE NEVER SHOPPED AT FERIA LIBRE

                             OUTDOOR MERCADO



Actual conversation with Feria Libre Mercado Vendor (took place in Spanish):

ME:  how much are the sweet potatoes?  (I already know he’s going to quote me the gringo price.)
 


VENDOR: fifty cents a pound.  .50cents a lb.

ME: can’t you sell them to me for three pounds for a dollar?
(notice I’m asking, not telling)
 


VENDOR:  I can sell for that price out of this other sack (a little bit older but good sweet potatoes)

ME:  ( I start looking through them thinking all the while that I’ve never actually paid .33cents a pound for them anywhere in Ecuador)
 


To tell you the truth sir, I pay .25cents a pound on the other side of the market.  Your price is a gringo price.  I don’t pay that.
 


VENDOR:  Ok, I’ll sell to you for that. (.25cents lb.)
 


VENDOR:  as I’m putting 4 pounds in a bag, he looks me over real good with a tilted head and says:  “aren’t you a gringo? Maybe you’re not a gringo” (notice he’s not sure, thanks to my Spanish and my demeanor.
 


ME: “No, I’m a Grin-Cano”
 


ME AND VENDOR:  Cracking up laughing

ME:  I pay the vendor and tell him, I’ll see you again, he smiles and agrees and bids me a nice day.
 


NOTE: this time the vendor was male, and he went along with my reasoning.  However most of the ladies don’t go for that, I have to walk away when dealing with them, and only then do they start negotiating, if at all.
 


As you can hopefully see, it takes a different kind of person to act this way. And you know, if he would not have come down to my price I would have walked away.  He could tell I was sincere and I meant it.  I was also respectful.
 


Now for an explanation of the title.  Most non frugal North Americans “shop”.  



This is a typical north American shopper:  you run out of something or decide you want something.  (notice the presupposition is that you have already decided you will buy).  Then, you go out and just BUY that item.  You pay the price asked, and you go home.  Typical north American or international - in store - way of buying.
 


Instead, notice that above I said I would have walked away.  That means I potentially and more than likely would have went home without sweet potatoes that day.  See the difference?  We don’t “shop”.  What do we do?  We bargain hunt.
 


How would you know what a “bargain” is, if you don’t already know the SEASONAL PRICES around town and a variety of different stores?
 


There’s something else going on here.  I won’t pay same or higher than store prices at an outdoor Mercado for two reasons:
 


1.    Locals don’t do that
2.    Quality is not assured so why would I?
 


Remember I’m at an outdoor Mercado because I’m living local, and don’t want to pay store prices.  So then based on that it is imperative that I already know what the SEASONAL PRICES are at a variety of stores around town.
 


As the song goes:  If you weren’t already frugal and diligent BEFORE coming to Ecuador, moving to Ecuador (or any other developing country) and “shopping” at outdoor Mercados won’t necessarily make you so.
 


And with the help of these articles and our DIY Cuenca Landing Guide we feel it will make it easier for you to understand what it really takes to “go local” and decide if it’s really for you.

Peace.




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Monday, December 21, 2015

A Reader Asks: Can I Buy Organic Fruits & Vegetables in Cuenca Ecuador?

A
reader wants to know if they will be able to find and buy organic
fruits and vegetables in Cuenca Ecuador when they retire in three years.
We hope so!
This is a really important subject because everyone needs to eat and most people care about their health and what they are putting into their body on a daily basis, but it's really difficult to get a straight answer about the healthfulness of the food at the Mercados.  Watch the video to find our more.


                        



We're an Expat Family of Five, Living Frugal, Healthy and Happy Abroad. We live in Cuenca, Ecuador and travel the Ecuador coast whenever we get a chance. We just adventured throughout the country of Panama for five weeks! Come along and enjoy some of our experiences with us!